Which distro?

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LelsersLasers
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Which distro?

Post by LelsersLasers » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:51 pm

Ok, I Know all distros can do all things but There are still differences. I am looking for a distro to replace windows. I am not done with it yet (still need it for some games), but I am trying to do everything else in Linux. I am pretty experienced in Linux (done Arch and stuffs, but hasn't everybody?). My computer is good and can run all, and I like the GNOME de (not the Ubuntu one, the default one), and I will not use anything Debian based. I will use it primarily for Coding (java, python, and c++) and I will keep windows in dual boot for games. I was thinking about Fedora and Manjaro. I won't use Arch (just no). Manjaro has the ability to install anything really easy and rolling updates, but can be unstable, and after using arch, there are somethings that I don't like the way they are done. Fedora, is stabler (is that true?) but still rolling-ish. But install things that aren't in the default repos (or fusion repos) is kind of a pain, and I am worried that all those rpm files in my downloads will stop working when I go to Fedora 32 (can someone explain how the package manager use the rpm files?). Any others I should look into? Thanks in advance, LelsersLasers

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Re: Which distro?

Post by TheMatteo » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:30 pm

LelsersLasers wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:51 pm
Ok, I Know all distros can do all things but There are still differences. I am looking for a distro to replace windows. I am not done with it yet (still need it for some games), but I am trying to do everything else in Linux. I am pretty experienced in Linux (done Arch and stuffs, but hasn't everybody?). My computer is good and can run all, and I like the GNOME de (not the Ubuntu one, the default one), and I will not use anything Debian based. I will use it primarily for Coding (java, python, and c++) and I will keep windows in dual boot for games. I was thinking about Fedora and Manjaro. I won't use Arch (just no). Manjaro has the ability to install anything really easy and rolling updates, but can be unstable, and after using arch, there are somethings that I don't like the way they are done. Fedora, is stabler (is that true?) but still rolling-ish. But install things that aren't in the default repos (or fusion repos) is kind of a pain, and I am worried that all those rpm files in my downloads will stop working when I go to Fedora 32 (can someone explain how the package manager use the rpm files?). Any others I should look into? Thanks in advance, LelsersLasers
Well I'm not the best one to answer to your question, as I never used fedora for more than 3 days, because of compatibility problems with my laptop, but from what I've seen it's a pretty nice distro. From my pov, go with Manjaro. It always was far more stable on my hardware and it worked flawlessly for me like 95% of the times.
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Re: Which distro?

Post by LelsersLasers » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:43 am

Well I'm not the best one to answer to your question, as I never used fedora for more than 3 days, because of compatibility problems with my laptop, but from what I've seen it's a pretty nice distro. From my pov, go with Manjaro. It always was far more stable on my hardware and it worked flawlessly for me like 95% of the times.
Ok! This makes sense, also it is more standardized and you don't have to deal with .

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Re: Which distro?

Post by archification » Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:02 am

The main difference between distros would be the package manager that's used and the software that's available in the repos. The version of available software is also of concern to some people. I prefer Arch based distros for aur access. I've never had to manually add another repo ever. This is noob-friendly Linux discussions so I suppose I'd recommend manjaro in this case. It's arch with training wheels. Then when you're ready for pure arch, you can install over it.
I know you've said that there are some things in arch based distros that you don't necessarily like. Would you mind elaborating on what those issues might be?

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Re: Which distro?

Post by freeculturepami » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:03 pm

I suppose I'd recommend manjaro in this case. It's arch with training wheels. Then when you're ready for pure arch, you can install over it.
Why is it better to use manjaro first and not arch ? i would like to know the reason why manjori is better for a noob ,or if its a compatibility issue for most people.. Im a noob in distros , but interested in learning more about gnu/linux distros.

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Re: Which distro?

Post by flfederation » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:46 pm

It's more a question of easier for some people than better, probably. Manjaro is aimed at different users.

You could list lots of things Manjaro does to cater to less experienced users, from the way it handles installation, to package management, to the fact that Manjaro has its own collection of tested packages specific to the distribution.

A search would probably find you longer comparisons than anybody would want to write here.

A long time ago, Ubuntu did the same for Debian. Having used both Debian and Ubuntu extensively, I think Ubuntu has gotten to the point where I feel the hand-holding is more of a nuisance than a help-- and I thought it was more reliable a long time ago. I hear the same about Manjaro at times, though if people here still recommend it it probably hasn't reached that point yet.

It comes down to opinions, but it starts with Manjaro just trying to do something a bit differently for a slightly different group of people. I've used Arch and a few distros in that family-- though personally I find rolling releases frustrating. (Updates break things more often.)

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Re: Which distro?

Post by Krellnus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:21 pm

freeculturepami wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:03 pm
I suppose I'd recommend manjaro in this case. It's arch with training wheels. Then when you're ready for pure arch, you can install over it.
Why is it better to use manjaro first and not arch ? i would like to know the reason why manjori is better for a noob ,or if its a compatibility issue for most people.. Im a noob in distros , but interested in learning more about gnu/linux distros.
I would say it's this:

The good thing about Arch, in comparison to many other distros, is that you are intended to basically do everything yourself aside from compiling the kernel.

The idea behind 'newbie' distros is they add a lot of 'out of the box' stuff that lets people use it, that is 'it just works'. The downside to doing this in most distros, is as they learn more and more about their system, the more and more the 'out of the box' stuff gets in their way.

So what makes Manjaro great is that on the one hand, they have access to all this 'out of the box' stuff that helps newbies jump in, but being based on Arch, this 'out of the box' stuff doesn't prevent you from doing what you want to do. In a word, you get to eat your cake and have it too.

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Re: Which distro?

Post by freeculturepami » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:02 pm

So what makes Manjaro great is that on the one hand, they have access to all this 'out of the box' stuff that helps newbies jump in, but being based on Arch, this 'out of the box' stuff doesn't prevent you from doing what you want to do. In a word, you get to eat your cake and have it too.
Thanks for the explanation @krelinus!

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Re: Which distro?

Post by kicks » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:02 pm

Though Debian isn't my preferred distro either it's unfortunate that you wouldn't want try something Debian based such as Linux Mint, which I would consider the best distro for new users. Other than that I would suggest the use of Fedora. Fedora does a lot to stay out of the users way but I feel that it is targeted at more of the developer crowd so you will be expected to do more work. Fedora is being supported out of the box by the likes of Lenovo these days and their upstream Red Hat is supported by many more.

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